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Finding pictures in the Image Gallery from San Luis Obispo CA August 23, 2009 How can I select a picture when I don't know the photographer or anything else, just the name of the plant? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Plants for centerpieces that can be planted in a garden August 14, 2009 I want to purchase flowers in Crossville, Tennessee to use as centerpieces and then plant in my garden. What are the best suggestions to do so? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Columbines for September wedding in CO. August 14, 2009 My daughter is planning a September 2010 wedding in Colorado. Is there any way for me to buy Columbines in the spring and keep them cool so that the pots all bloom in September for the wedding? Also,... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for American barberry in Adelaide Australia August 03, 2009 I am trying to find a source/s of the American barberry (Berberis canadensis). I am interested in root stock but particularly in a supplier of the fruit (berry). I have tried everything and someone su... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for Phyla nodiflora, fogfruit seeds July 29, 2009 Where can I buy fog fruit seeds (nodiflora)Do you know a seed company that sells this seed? I am replacing my lawn with lippia and have it half done. Need more seeds Please reply Thanks Claudia View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Looking for a source of bracken fern seed. July 27, 2009 I`m looking to buy "bracken fern"seed. Or can it be transplanted from the wild? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for blue phlox in Whitehouse TX July 12, 2009 Where can I purchase blue phlox ground cover? I live ten minutes from Tyler,Tx View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for non-native mimosa plants in New Orleans July 10, 2009 We need potted mimosa plants for an installation in New Orleans. I hope you can help me or know of anyone who could help me with that. If so please let me know how much and how fast I can get about 1... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Looking for a source for Atlantic pigeonwings (Clitoria mariana) July 02, 2009 I hope you can help me a little. I'm trying to find a way to get Clitoria mariana (Atlantic pigeonwings) in my garden, but can't find a seed source anywhere. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Where to find non-native Thymus praecox coccineus July 02, 2009 Do you know where in Lansing, MI I could buy the Walk On Me plants? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Wildflower seed sources for Collinsia verna. June 29, 2009 Hello, I am looking for seeds of Collinsia verna to plant in my woodland wildflower garden. I live in NC, a bit out of the native range, so don't have immediate access to native seeds. Do you kno... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Who does pecan grafting in Brownsville, TX? June 29, 2009 Who does pecan tree grafting in Brownsville TX? I planted a pecan. It is now about 8' tall, and about 3 years old. View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for non-native white Mexican petunias in Panama City, FL June 23, 2009 I'm looking for tall white Mexican Petunias. Can you please tell me where I can get some? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for Dioscorea floribunda or D. villosa June 21, 2009 Can you furnish me with a source for growing my own Dioscorea floribunda, or , Dioscorea villosa?? Many thanks. View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for Dryopteris Filix-max Rhizomes in East Hanover NJ June 15, 2009 We are in search for 100kg Dryopteris Filix-mas (Male Fern) Rhizomes to extract oil Kindly send your offer View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Native plants for free in Hutto, TX June 14, 2009 We have moved in to a new subdivision and I would like to plant native Texas desert plants and flowers. We will only be in this house for two or three years so I don't want to spend a lot of money.Is... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Honeysuckle bush for San Antonio, Tx June 14, 2009 I'm looking for a gift for my brother, living in San Antonio. He loves the native honeysuckle that we both remember from our childhoods. I think I'd like to get him a honeysuckle bush rather than ... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
American basswood in Austin June 07, 2009 Where can I purchase a fledgling linden tree in Austin? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Sources for Calyptocarpus vialis and Dalea greggii. June 05, 2009 What are sources for 4" horseherb and gregg dalea? I've tried nurseries listed with NPSOT. Also, would using the above and maybe wooly stemodia and/or frogfruit together become a problem? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Looking for a supplier of Limoncillo. May 27, 2009 Hello, I'm looking for a plant called limoncillo. Do you know of a seller where this can be purchased. Thanks. View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Colorful plants for window boxes in Indiana May 26, 2009 I want to find plants with lots of color that will fill two window boxes and trail out of the boxes and look full and nice throughout the summer. I live in Northern Indiana and the window faces south... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for seeds of any species in the genus Choisya May 20, 2009 Please let me know of any commercial or other sources for seed of any species in the genus Choisya. Only a small quantity would be needed. This seed is for research purposes and is urgently needed. ... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Plant identification in Georgia. May 20, 2009 Help I bought a bush at the flea market and I was told it would have white star flowers and it was a hydrangea. The leaves look like cannabis but not furry. The leaves grow from stalks Help what did... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Plants that ducks will not eat May 12, 2009 I own a lot of ducks and see a lot of people asking what kind of plants will they "NOT" eat... I know of some through experience.. Anything with shiny leave.. They don't touch my English ivy, rose... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Height of tree to block sun on deck in Arlington MA May 12, 2009 I am trying to figure out how tall a tree I should buy in order to make sure to block out the sun on my deck View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Can you recommend a supplier for Comptonia? May 11, 2009 Can you recommend a web supplier for the native plant Sweet Fern, Comptonia? Thanks View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Plants for Painted Lady May 10, 2009 Where can I buy plants for the painted lady butterfly larvae in Houston? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Need a source of sulfuric acid for scarifying bluebonnet seeds in Austin, TX. May 06, 2009 I see that you recommend soaking blue bonnet seeds in concentrated h2so4 to facilitate germination. Where do you suggest I buy the sulfuric acid? I live here in Austin. Thank you, View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Finding plants to thrive under white pines in Newaygo, MI May 04, 2009 Would you please explain why plants do not grow or grow well under white pines or other evergreens? Are there any ground covers that would thrive under a white pine? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Yaupons not showing berries in Euless, TX May 04, 2009 From all I have read, Possumhaw holly is supposed to have berries only on the female. However I have been told and read conflicting things about whether you must have both a male & female in order f... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for Impatiens capensis in Austin May 02, 2009 Where can I buy a Jewelweed plant in Austin, Tx? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for invasive, non-native Lythrum in Indiana April 28, 2009 Please help me find where I can purchase Lithrum in Indiana. This is my favorite plant from long ago. I know it has been banned for the last few years. Presently you need a permit to sell Lithrum. I ... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Preparing to plant buffalograss in Jonesboro, TX April 25, 2009 Our current lawn is full of broad-leaf weeds, KR bluestem, a little native grass, lots of wildflowers and in spots, lots of rocks . We are in the country in Hamilton Co., TX. We want to plant buffa... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for lady lupine in Rosemary Beach, FL April 21, 2009 Where can I buy the lady lupine? I live in Rosemary Beach, Fl. View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Native replacements for English ivy in Atlanta April 17, 2009 What to plant instead of English Ivy in Atlanta, Georgia. We have a nice lot with trees in back of our lot. To protect our trees there I'm clearing out the ubiquitous English ivy (lots of gardens i... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Looking for Yucca filamentosa, Adams Needle, to purchase April 07, 2009 Where can I purchase Adam's Needle in Austin or Travis County View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Are Texas mallows the source of marshmallows? March 30, 2009 Did marshmallows that we eat originate from our native Texas mallow plants? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Replacing grass with xeric plants in Nevada March 20, 2009 I am looking to xeriscape my front yard - remove all grass! I am thinking 3-4 larger plants: bird of paradise (mesquite??), aloe, and ..?? Also, possibly a Chilean mesquite. Do you have suggestio... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Maryland native plant source March 15, 2009 Dear Mr. Smarty Plants, Great answer to the man from Severen, MD with list of Maryland natives. Did you know that some of these natives are propogated from seed collected in the wild by Chesapeake Nat... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Looking for seeds for Styrax americanus. March 12, 2009 I am looking for a source I can purchase Styrax americanus seed, preferably wholesale but if not a retail source. Can you suggest a place. thank you View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for non-native Bauhinia Blakeana March 10, 2009 I BOUGHT WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A HONG KONG ORCHID TREE ALMOST 2 YEARS AGO IN SAN ANTONIO, TX,.BUT IT TURNED OUT TO BE A WHITE ORCHID TREE.I AM SEEKING A NURSERY IN THE AREA THAT MAY HAVE SOME IN STOCK.TH... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Endangered plants of Maryland March 06, 2009 My high school would like to plant endangered plant species of Maryland in our wetlands, but we do not know where we can acquire these plants. Do you know of a place where we could buy endangered plan... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for non-native Coleus Canina March 04, 2009 We are trying to find Coleus Canina (Scaredy Cat Coleus)? to no avail. We purchased this plant in 2006 and it works. The Vt company no longer carries it. Can you help me. Thank you. View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Why are Virginia strawberries native to Massachusetts? February 26, 2009 Thank you for your answer regarding Virginia wild strawberries. I thought they were only native to Virginia and that Virginia fragaria duchesne is the accepted name for them. Why do strawberries of Ne... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Where can I find Ilex verticillata in Maryland? February 24, 2009 Do you have any suggestions where I might purchase a winterberry holly, ilex verticillata (with bright orange berries in the winter)? They are on our Maryland State highway on Route 3 (301) heading t... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
How can I propagate wax myrtle by soft-wood or semi-hardwood cuttings? February 24, 2009 Mr. Smartypants, I would like to propagate wax myrtle from mature plants I have growing in my yard here in Houston. I've read on the wildflower website to use "softwood" or "semi-hardwood" c... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Contacts for finding wildflowers in Texas February 10, 2009 Do you have a website or phone number for updates to find blooming wildflowers? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Where can I find Opuntia santa-rita? February 09, 2009 Dear Mr. Plants - I'm trying to locate a type of opuntia violacea-santa rita. (Purple prickly pear) Instead of the normal pads, this cactus has rippled pads that almost look like a type of coral. It... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Propagating trees in Pennsylvania February 05, 2009 I have been wanting to plant trees at our family camp for quite a few years now to help provide food for the wildlife during in preparation for the cold winters. As a college student, however, both f... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Plants for a new duck pond that are duck proof January 28, 2009 Sir. I live in Charleston SC. I dug a pond for ducks in my backyard. I want to plant grass and anything else that will grow around the pond that the ducks won't want to eat up. What should I buy to p... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for seeds of Aniscanthus quadrifidus var. wrightii January 24, 2009 I am Kevin Campbell of Campbell Family Nursery. I wish to try some of your native flame acanthus or wrights desert honeysuckle. Aniscanthus quadrifilus wrightii Ii believe. Do you know of a seed sourc... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for eastern red cedar trees for Pennsylvania January 20, 2009 Please help, Mr. Smarty Pants! I live in Easton PA, and I would like to create an instant screen on my property line using Eastern Redcedar trees. I was hoping to find 5 to 6 foot trees. Most place... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for supplier of cedar plants in Pennsylvania January 20, 2009 Mr. Smarty Pants - please disregard a stupid question I asked a little earlier today about sourcing cedar plants near Easton, PA. I figured out looking up "Nurseries" could lead to Yellow Pages ent... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for Acer leucoderm (chalk maple) January 19, 2009 Do you know where I can purchase a chalk maple (Acer leucoderme)? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
ID for pines along Interstate 45 January 12, 2009 Along the interstate (45) once you get up past Conroe and closer to Dallas, there are some type of pne tree that grows in the medians and on the sides. I love these trees but haven't been able to id... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Sources for cedar and Texas sedge seeds in Central Texas December 27, 2008 Where can I buy cedar and Texas sedge seeds in the central Texas area? What will be the cost? I have found a few nurseries who sell 4 inch pots, but that is very costly for the size of area I want to ... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
More questions about Asclepias spp. December 24, 2008 Hi. Thank-you for replying to my message. What does Emory's Milkweed look like? I have been trying to find out, but no luck. Also What Milkweeds did you find for sale as seeds and plants? Does Texas ... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Trying to find a supplier for east Texas wetland plants December 11, 2008 Mr. Smarty Plants, I'm trying to find suppliers for native, East Texas wetland plants (edge and submerged) and can't seem to find any. Can you help? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Looking for Asclepians texana and other milkweed seeds December 10, 2008 Hi. I was wondering where I could find seeds of Asclepias Texana, and other rare or uncommon Milkweeds. I am looking for seeds of all the Asclepias species. I have swamp, Clasping, and butterflyweed... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for Matelea for Indiana December 05, 2008 I have been searching unsuccessfully I might add for a vine species called Matelea. These vines benefit the Monarch butterflies but no butterfly places online carry them. Where would a good place be... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Plants For Sale November 30, 2008 I have to move out of my home to take care of my mother. I have various plants in the small yard (6 mo old). If I dig them up and pot them, is there someone who will buy them? Thanks,Pat View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Looking for native plant nurseries November 29, 2008 I am in 75862 zip code which is a long way from everywhere. I am trying to find native plant nurseries within 100 miles. Many sites just talk about native plants, and have photos, but very little info... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Native plants for Monterey, California November 25, 2008 I'm attempting to get my grandparents to buy native plants for their Monterey, CA yard. They are looking for neat-looking, flowering plants that are easy for yard workers to maintain. The area is san... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Native trees with beautiful fall foliage November 18, 2008 Dear Mr. Smarty Plants, This fall I have been seeing a tree with beautiful red leaves all over Austin and someone told me that these are Chinese tallow trees. Can you tell me where I might buy one of... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Is Cissus trifoliata a food source for wildlife? November 10, 2008 We apparently have Cissus Trifoliata growing around and over our porch.I was thinking about trying to remove it and plant grape vines instead as our desert tortoises will eat grape leaves. My question... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Possible source of dermatitis in Wisconsin November 10, 2008 I hunt in a Marshy area in central WI. I have had a breakout on my skin that is not from poison ivy. There is a plant that has pine like needles on it that look like dried up pine needles that is ye... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Purchase source for Jamaica Sawgrass November 09, 2008 Any idea where to find this plant? Does the center sell them? Cladium mariscus ssp. jamaicense (Crantz) Kükenth. Jamaica swamp sawgrass, Jamaican Saw-grass, Saw-grass Cyperaceae (Sedge Family) ... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Location of Texas wild olive (Cordia boissieri) for sale October 29, 2008 Do you know where to purchase Cordia boissieri A. DC.? I recently lost a tree during Hurricane Ike (I live in Houston, Texas)and have prepared the old area for a new tree. I've been researching the ... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Native Suppliers Directory October 27, 2008 we are a wholesale wetland plants nursery.we'd like to be added to your wetland plant suppliers list. thank you tammy sons tn nursery 12845 state rt 108 altamont tn 37301 931-692-4252 www.wetl... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for purchase of non-native Tradescantia zebrina October 04, 2008 Is there a nursery near me that carries Wandering Jew plants? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
History of plant Poliomintha longiflora October 01, 2008 My question is about the known history of a plant Poliomintha longiflora. In the 1930's (according to my grandmother) in any Mexican market in Texas you could buy this dried plant then known as Wild ... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for Lenophyllum texanum (coastal stonecrop) September 29, 2008 Hi, Where can you purchase native coastal stonecrop or texas sedum; preferably out in East Texas? Thank you! View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Purchase source for non-native Aerva Lanata plant September 18, 2008 I am looking for a place where I could buy the Aerva Lanata Plant, would you happen to know? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Locating source for Iva frutescens September 03, 2008 Do you know where I can purchase the plant Iva Frutescens, sometimes called the Miracle Bush or Jesuit's bark? Do you know if this bush attracts Monarch Butterflies? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for Brazoria Hawthorne September 01, 2008 I want to buy several Brazoria Hawthorn to plant in my yard and need a source, can you help? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for materials for making seedballs September 01, 2008 Regarding your answer to the person looking for Red Clay for making seedballs: The Red Clay can be found at Armadillo Clay in Austin, TX. (The inquirer lives in Round Rock). The Wildflower Center arti... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Wildflower seeds for Nocona, Texas August 13, 2008 I have a place on Lake Nocona in Nocona,TX and am wanting to buy native wild flower seeds that will take the heat and little water. I have both sunlight and shade. I,m interested in the western prairi... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source of black cherries for Tennessee August 12, 2008 I need to know where black cherries grow in TN. I need a source of black cherries in TN. Do they grow easily and can the trees be bought? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Plants for a steep lot in Tennessee August 07, 2008 I have built a home on a very steep lot (approx 1 1/2 acres)in Northern Central Tenn in Jackson County. The lot is too steep to mow and some of it is too steep to stand on comfortably. My question is... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Bluebonnets for wedding in February August 04, 2008 I'm getting married in February 2009. My father passed away when I was younger and thus, won't be there to walk me down the aisle. His favorite flower was bluebonnets and I would like to include t... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Where to purchase a non-native gardenia August 02, 2008 Where can I buy a gardenia plant in south austin? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Planting native yaupons on fence line for privacy July 26, 2008 I live in the country and someone bought the place next door and is building a house close to me.(150 yards) I want to plant yaupon trees on my fence line. Can I get seeds somewhere? I have yaupons ... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for purchase of native Parkinsonia aculeata July 01, 2008 I would like to buy a Jerusalem Thorn Tree plant. I will purchase seeds if plant is not available. Can you tell me where I can purchase either? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Identification of palm plant June 21, 2008 Hello! I just bought a tiny 10" tall feather leafed palm. I did my research first though, and thought I was buying an areca palm. Now after doing more research, I really have no idea what type of pal... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source of seeds for Schisandra glabra (bay starvine) June 21, 2008 Hi, I am looking for an herbal plant, Schisandra. It bears red berries. Please let me know where I can find/ buy this plant. Thanks. View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Pictures and sources for black trilliums June 10, 2008 Do you have pictures and/or sources for Black Trilliums? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Where plants can be purchased in Jennings, FL June 07, 2008 I would like to know where I can buy some plants to plant on my property to grow? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Native wetland plants nursery June 03, 2008 I need to replant a disturbed wetlands area in Brookfield, CT. I have a list of plants (Sparganium americanum, sagittaria latifolia, pontederia cordata, peltandra virginica ) etc. Where to I go to o... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Food value of cultivars of eastern red cedar (Juniperus virginiana) May 21, 2008 Can you suggest any resources regarding the wildlife value of native plant cultivars? For example, I can only buy an eastern red Cedar cultivar in my region: "Burkii" or "Emerald Sentinel". I w... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Information on Lansium domesticum May 20, 2008 Where can I purchase a Lansium domesticum plant ? Will it grow here in Auburn, Wa? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for Penstemon calycocus May 01, 2008 Do you know where I can obtain Penstemon calycocus? I live in Annapolis. I am willing to look at mail order sources. View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Cutting costs on purchase of plants in Boston April 19, 2008 I spend OVER $600 per season on annuals for my gardens here in the Boston area each year. I wonder if there is any place you are aware that I can buy discounted plants? I grow the typical geraniums, m... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Weed eradication in Turfallo April 18, 2008 I live in the Texas Panhandle and last June we planted Turfallo in our backyard - we now have lots of weeds - my information says I can use products containing MSM and 2410 to eradicate weeds. I am a... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for non-native, invasive Chocolate Mimosa March 30, 2008 Hi, I was wondering if you know where I can get seeds for a Chocolate Mimosa Tree? I saw one and I fell in love with the colors but I can not find any seeds or a tree. View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Seed sources for gardening projects for kids March 27, 2008 Hello! I want to grow some agriculture plants for my kids, namely, cotton, alfalfa, etc. Do you know of a source to buy seeds without chemicals? Thanks! p.s. If you have any other ideas for co... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Rhizobium sources for bluebonnets March 25, 2008 Where can you buy Rhizobium for your bluebonnet seeds? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source for purchase of Texas Madrone March 23, 2008 Where can we buy a Texas Madrone, the Peeling Tree, or Naked Indian tree? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source of Dalea greggii seeds March 14, 2008 I want to purchase Gregg Dalea seeds. Where can I order them? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Sources for native plants in Wimberly, TX March 10, 2008 Where can I go to find a good selection of Central Texas Native plants. I live in Wimberley and I want to fill my garden and land with native plants, shrubs and trees. I cannot find a place to purcha... View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
Source of seeds for non-native Josephs Coat March 08, 2008 Looking for some time for Joseph's coat seeds,(Althernanthera--Chartreuse), Can you help? View Mr. Smarty Plants' Answer | ||
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